Sunday, March 28, 2010

Oh great
Tom Smith

It looks like the FBI has moved against some looney toons militias in America's dairyland.  Just wait for the MSM to associate them with "tea baggers" and anybody not wild about health care.  It could be something else but it looks like a plausible rumor at this stage.  I am not hopeful that any distinctions will be made by our opinion leaders between those who think the Illuminati and the Joooz are running the world and those who think we should not create a debt that is half the size of our GDP.  I hope the FBI understands the difference.

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If it's the FBI, I suppose that the perps might survive. Unlike those poor sods at Waco.

Posted by: dearieme | Mar 28, 2010 11:21:03 AM

Our debt is worse than that! O's spending will put us at 100.8% of GDP by 2012!

Posted by: Mrsimplesense | Mar 28, 2010 2:13:50 PM

TO: Tom Smith, et al.
RE: I Think....

....the 24-hour rule needs to be applied here.

Especially as the timing of this correlates so well with the 'hate speech' being directed against the Tea Party. As well as the long-time effort on the part of DHS to find terrorists under the bed labeled 'Christians'.

What can you expect from a self-confessed "muslim"—via at least TWO freudian slip-ups—as president. All the 'terrorists' are christians. The Muslims, i.e., al Qaeda, et al., with the undergarments by Dupont, are completely harmless.

To me, this reeks like the initial raid on the Davidians....who had not bothered anyone....until the BATF bothered to bother them.

But let's see the evidence before making a final judgment.

As for the MSM.... betcha. And watch the spin on 'christians' being 'evil'.


P.S. I seem to recall an item at Drudge Report about how a quarter of christians interviewed thought Obama was THE Anti-Christ.

I question the 'timing'.....

Posted by: Chuck Pelto | Mar 28, 2010 2:35:43 PM

P.P.S. I've been expecting something like this to happen. All the 'hateful christians' and 'tea partiers' rhetoric had to be re-enforced with some form of 'evidence', trumped-up or not....

Posted by: Chuck Pelto | Mar 28, 2010 2:41:50 PM

TO: All

Correction on my earlier comment about a "quarter of christians".

I did some research on the article I remembered seeing at Drudge Report and found it was from the British "Mail Online" and it's even worse than I originally misunderstood....'s headline reads....

Almost a quarter of Republicans think Obama 'may be the Antichrist'....

So....'s not the Christians. It's the nemesis of the Democrats, the Republicans. This ties in with Congressman Grayson (D-FL) calling for "getting rid of the Republicans, entirely".

Meanwhile, the report from Obama's surprise trip to Afghanistan is about his 'get tough on terrorism'.

I have to admit it's a well orchestrated/staged activity.


[Nobody ever said the Democrats were 'stupid'. Evil might be a better word....]

Posted by: Chuck Pelto | Mar 28, 2010 2:58:16 PM

The Militia doesn't sound like my cuppa tea. But they weren't Looney Tunes or a "threat" when they were helping authorities look for a lost person a few days ago.

Posted by: Rosa | Mar 28, 2010 3:00:26 PM

Actually, dearieme, it was the FBI that burned everybody at the Branch Davidian's Mount Carmel compound at Waco. The ATF began the raid, but the FBI took over after the ATF's poorly conceived plan broke down.

Posted by: NoelArmourson | Mar 28, 2010 3:01:12 PM

Ah, thank you Noel. I suppose it's even worse that two different arms of the government were involved in that slaughter. Why it isn't known as the Waco Massacre is beyond me. Unless it's just that it happened under Democrat rule.

Posted by: dearieme | Mar 28, 2010 3:37:48 PM

TO: NoelArmourson
RE: Actually....

"Actually, dearieme, it was the FBI that burned everybody at the Branch Davidian's Mount Carmel compound at Waco. The ATF began the raid, but the FBI took over after the ATF's poorly conceived plan broke down." -- NoelArmourson

...I know that. I watched the conflagration on television and captured the videos of the massacre.

[1] The Davidians were warned by a phone call just before the BATF showed up.
[2] According to credible reports, all four of the BATF agents that died in the initial Keystone Kop assault were former body-guards of then governor Bill Clinton. All four died of headshots. That's pretty good shooting for a bunch of rank amateurs in their first ever firefight.
[3] Videos and IR tapes of the final assault show a number of interesting 'activities' that lead to the firey end of the men, women and children there. I won't go into detail here, but if you're REALLY interested, visit my web-site and ask me.


P.S. Be advised, I'm a retired infantry officer who specialized in this sort of operational assault. It was very well done. But it was 'evil' in the extreme.

P.P.S. Shortly after that massacre, the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) changed its name to something else. Why? Because (1) the acronym was equally understood as the Homicidal Rifle Team (HRT) and (2) they'd managed to KILL more people than they had ever rescued.

Posted by: Chuck Pelto | Mar 28, 2010 3:48:32 PM

TO: NoelArmourson
RE: Waco

"Actually, dearieme, it was the FBI that burned everybody at the Branch Davidian's Mount Carmel compound at Waco. The ATF began the raid, but the FBI took over after the ATF's poorly conceived plan broke down." -- NoelArmourson

It wasn't that the "poorly conceived plan broke down". Rather, it was that for some strange reason, the Davidians got a phone call telling them the BATF was on its way with an 'assault force'.

There's a LOT more to it and plenty of blame to go around for the BATF, FBI, the then governor of Texas and the US Army. Not to forget Bill Clinton and Secretary of [In]Justice Reno.

There's SOOOOO much to talk about in that mass murder. And, in due time, it will all come out and Clinton and company will be judged accordingly.


[The Truth will out....for those who have the courage to face it....]

Posted by: Chuck Pelto | Mar 28, 2010 3:57:06 PM

Chuck is right about the current raid that we need to wait and see, because the FBI has not been trustworhty in the past, to our shame.

Even from the indictment, it looks dubious. If they were really plotting to kill police, sure, they need to be locked up. But even if they were, home-made bombs are not "weapons of mass destruction".

As for Plotting Levy War against the United States, maybe. A side point: if we're really going to mix war and domestic law as liberals like to do, does that mean we get to convict foreign soldiers and politicians of that and lock them up for life, even after the war ends?

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