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June 08, 2009

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dearieme

When I was a schoolboy I made money in the summer unloading cement from small freight boats. The bloody stuff gets into every pore, and the bags were a hundredweight (112 lb), and a bugger to maneouvre. I moved onto working on a trawler as it was easier and more varied. It's OK when you know it's not going to be your job for life.

Michael F. Martin

In high school I earned money over the summers teaching swim lessons to kids and lifeguarding. When I read *A River Runs Through It* I felt like the irresponsible younger brother, and thought I had wimped out by not volunteering to fight forest fires. But then again, my twin brother worked at the Better Business Bureau instead. Wimpy or not, I was definitely the brighter twin.

Michael F. Martin

Oh and let's be honest: fixing exotic motorcycles is about as white collar as it gets on the manual labor spectrum.

Mike

Exactly right. My dad is 50+ with swollen knees and a broken body. A lifetime spent in factories and salvage yards.

I detassled corn for $5.35 an hour. Start at 4 a.m. when it's cold and the corn is wet. End at 3 p.m. when the hot is sun and the dry corn gives you corn rash. Never again.

steve sturm

On the other hand, with manual labor you get the chance to actually see what you've accomplished - the fields plowed, the drains, cleaned, the products produced and so on. No offense to academics, but how does a professor measure their work? How much satisfaction does a bureaucrat get from moving papers from one pile to another?

Bryan

I don't think he's so much valorizing manual work as what we might call craft-work. There's a world of difference between the guy lugging cement or de-tassling corn and the guy doing masonry work or carpentry or what-not. It's not to say that even that sort of manual work is easy or whatever (I spent a summer framing houses in Florida), but it has value for human flourishing.

Tom Smith

Craft work is probably different - good point.

Mike

Did you read the excerpt a while back from New Yorker? It's very psychologically revealing.

The guy wants truth and certainty. He couldn't find that in public policy, so he retreated to motorcycles - and all their Newtonian glory.

I view writing as craft.

I am also comfortable with ambiguity.

He works on motor cycles because he's weak minded.

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