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September 04, 2008

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Professors in the Sciences, Engineering, and technical fields who were in favor of affirmative action for the humanities have no reasonable arguments why AA shouldn't be applied to their fields as well. I have degrees in both history and computer science. I dearly hope that AA is applied with the same intensity to the sciences as it was to the humanities. I'm sure it will have the same results. I look forward to departments of alternative race, class, gender sciences.

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It's different in science: you have to share the chem lab bench with your classmates.

I do not have degrees in history and computer science, but I can read, and it is obvious females will not ever reach into advanced math and hard sciences any more than I could. This is not even a remotely close call. Honest data, both before and after it is twisted, shows repeatedly that 80% of males are similar to females in math, but that is not the portion that will ever use it except to count change and avoid really stupid career decisions. Those 20% of men are both unusually lacking or elevated.
But it is those especially rare 1% of peculuar elevated brains that will take home all the cookies, and they are 99% male. At every level--high school, undergrad, graduate, Nobel.
The world is full of frustrated males who were formerly engineers, who could not do what they would love to do because desire and work-ethic were not a substitute for plain talent when the rubber hit the road. No reason we cannot have many more failed AA female engineers for them to commiserate with. But math and science? They will not get to second base even with the degrading crutch of affirmative action.
A fairly large single dose of estrogen will not damage a man. A fairly small dose of testoterone will kill a woman. That compound is everything in the development, or lack of it if you prefer, of the male brain.

Based on what I've seen, we should not be limiting the encouragement to AA qualified candidates. We need more (in (old?) Rice terms) SE's (science-engineering) than academs across the board.

STEM is a bandaid (ahem, adhesive bandage) solution for an overall lower quality of rationalism in schools, especially in the sciences. Are we not in a post AA world, where we need to create systems that provide higher capacity for all rather than targeting a few select groups who seem, after over forty years of social science intervention, to remain in a lower socio-economic standing requiring more and more external supports. What makes Asians exempt from AA? How good are "whites" really doing across the board? How are Central Asians doing in this country? Or Native Americans? Or your favorite social/cultural/linguistic group? If STEM is the new "New Math" it should be for all children all the time. Perhaps then we'd produce a more knowledgeable population overall.

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