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July 07, 2008

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I think this post dramatically overstates the case to say that an associate would be fired for a mistake like this, presuming that it was as peripheral to the main issue as this mistake. (Obviously, if the main rationale for the holding was the non-existence of a relevant federal statute, that would be different.) And as for making partner, I suspect that this is not an area in which the author is an expert. As a partner at an AmLaw 100 firm, and one who has spent more than fifteen years of his professional life working at four such firms, I would say that politics and luck are the main factors, not competence at legal research.

I worked at two major law firms (before making my escape to academia). If I'd made such a mistake the firm, wouldn't have had to fire me. I'd have resigned in shame. This was not peripheral to the main issue.

I don't claim to be an expert on partnership processes, but I worked at a big firm in DC for 4 years and know a lot of people who went through the process at big firms. At a firm such as say Davis, Polk or another top 10 or 20 firm, I think you would be sunk. I certainly heard stories of people sunk by making errors no bigger than this. During my interview, I sat there while a lawyer proofread my resume and cover letter. There was a cult of accuracy at that firm, good for clients perhaps, but a major mistake like this would be a big problem for an aspiring lawyer. Similar story I bet at Cravath, Sullivan, etc. At Covington & Burling, where I was, an otherwise stellar tax attorney was dogged by her having missed a relevant tax reg on a matter. She may have made partner, but left to take a public sector job. I agree it is very political, but a major error gives your enemies something to hang their arguments on.

So they missed an indirectly relevant statute, and of a vintage so as to undermine their 'evolving standards of decency' meme. Who cares? If they feel free to make up rights under mythical penumbras, why would they care what the body of law actually says?

I suggested this a couple of years back--nobody seemed to think it was a very good idea then either!

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/supremecourtoft.html

There's already a way to address problems like this. A petition for rehearing under S. Ct. R. 44.1. While granting it may be rare in the Supreme Court, a circumstance like this would be a relatively common basis to grant it in most appellate courts.

don't see much point in blaming the parties/associates/partners; i doubt anyone really could have predicted that the national survey of child rape laws would ultimately form a key part of the majority opinion. bottom line: parties should just focus on the main legal arguments and analyses -- the supreme court will do whatever it does, and no one can really predict what they will do in any given case before they actually do it.

that being said, what about the law clerks?!?! not a single one of them went beyond the parties' and the amici briefs to fact-check something they were writing/their justices were signing onto and making into law? i find that the absolutely most appalling part of this whole embarrasing debacle.

Congratulations on the Above the Law shout-out.

Hi, where did you get this information can you please support this with some proof or you may say some good reference as I and others will really appreciate.


Assuming the camera is being held by a person and judging by the size of things in the background, I think it might be safe to say that the hatch is about one body-length above the ground.

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