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February 03, 2008

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Paul McKaskle

I don't know if you are trying to save the Romney primary campaign or setting up an argument that either Clinton or Obama are, ultimately, better choices than McCain. If the former, I think the answer will come on Tuesday--and I suspect McCain will have enough delegates to cinch the nomination.

I am interested in whether you think McCain should be supported against either Clinton or Obama. I read that Ann Coulter will suport Clinton--I must assume that she prefers Deval Patrick and Willie Fletcher on the Supreme Court rather than whomever McCain would pick and a more or less unilateral withdrawal from Iraq and, possibly, even Afganistan.

So, I await with interest your second post on the topic.

ZZMike

The only thing I need against McCain is the McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform" law. It allowed people like George Soros to funnel millions into left-wing advocacy groups like MoveOn.org, EMILY's list, &c.

He evidently doesn't think things through.

David C. Brayton

ZZMike--So, your point is that, regardless of whether McCain-Feingold is constitutional, because it had the effect of favoring Democrats/liberals, you're not gonna support him? That certainly seems like deep, thoughtful analysis.

underrated

No wonder McCain is considered to have the better shot against Dems: I generally vote Democratic, and all those issues you listed have piqued my interest in him. (I know this site is generally dominated by conservative thought, but I figured you guys might like my two cents -- if nothing else than as evidence of what us liberals are thinking.)

Greg D

You said: The second will discuss the fact that McCain is much more likely to beat the Democrats than Romney and how we should weigh that fact.

"It's not the things people don't know, it's the things they 'know' that ain't necessarily so."

John McCain is an ass, a jerk, a bad-tempered snotty old man. He is where he is because the MSM are in the tank for him.

Does ANYONE really think that's going to hold if he becomes the Republican nominee?

Add in a dispirited base, and he's the LEAST likely candidate to beat Obama, or even Hillary.

Mike Rappaport

I have some sympathy with Greg D's comment. But I still think McCain is more likely to win than Romney. In any event, mine is an argument for why a McCain victory would be bad.

frankcross

The choice is Romney, and you could make a much scarier list of Romney's past policy positions, from a conservative perspective. Judicial appointments being among the forefront. A criticism of McCain is pretty meaningless without a comparative analysis.


gregh

"...a more or less unilateral withdrawal from Iraq and, possibly, even Afganistan."
Much as we on the right side of the aisle would want to believe it, that is just not reality. Hillary is not going to allow Iraq to fall and become an caliphate, she is not going to let the middle east urupt into a region wide civil war that would drive up the price of oil to $200 a barrel and cause a global depression, because she would be driven from office in four years like a pariah. She is not going to allow an attack on US soil, because if it happened on her watch, she'd be the viewed as the Carter and McGovern rolled into one. If there was a probable attack coming, McCain would make sure any prisioner with knowledge of it was only interviewed in the presence of someone from the ACLU to make sure his Koran didn't get dust on it. Hillary would personally hook electrodes to his n*ts and turn the crank to see what he knows.
The Clintons are leftists, sure, but they are always, primarily ruthless pragamists, looking to the next election cycle. Anyone who doesn't know that, doesn't know them.

Mike Rappaport

In response to Frank Cross:

I believe that Romeny is far preferable to McCain. Romney has changed his positions, and I trust many of these changes for a variety of reasons. Your point that a comparative analysis is needed is correct, but misses my full position. As I describe in this series of posts, my preferences are as follows: 1st Romney win; 2nd McCain loss (to Democrat) for the long run good of the Republican party; 3rd McCain victory.

Sam Goble

In my opinion, the media has it wrong. McCain loses to both Hillary and Obama. The latter by a landslide. Romney beats Hillary and loses to Obama in a close one. Why? In a Hillary v McCain match, all of the media gloves are off and McCain gets trounced as his past is brought up in a mudslinging contest. Hillary actually does appear more qualified and intellegent. Hillary wins the mud slinging campaign because McCain cannot take advantage of Hillary weaknesses because, alas, to the layman they are similar to his own. The both reek of establishment.
Obama's zeal and momentum would crush McCain as the two are compared and independents are siphoned from him even more quickly than Republicans turn away in apathy.

Romney probably wouldn't beat Obama either, but would contrast very nicely and make a good showing. Romney beats Clinton because head to head he can contrast her shady business background, lack of executive experience, and general Washington insiderness.

That all is said in vain, alas, Romney will probably fall short on Tuesday, and my point will be moot.

Anon

As a liberal, here's what I hear when I read your list:

1. McCain-Fiengold: He doesn't believe that you can buy rights in this country.
2. Bush tax-cuts: He opposes the Bush tax cuts for the right reason.
3. Immigration: You aren't happy even when you get what you want.
4. "Interrogation": McCain opposes torture.
5. Guantanamo: McCain wants to close down Guantanamo.
6. Canadian drugs: (I'll give you 6, but it's a pretty weak objection)
7. Global Warming: McCain takes externalities seriously
8. ANWAR: Priorities: Oil vs. Environment
9. Economics (?): (most of which is just a series of assertions) As for subprime: you're right, the greedy people who caused this wern't working on Wall St. and didn't break the law (which, incidentally, is the problem).
10.Judges: Unadulterated speculation

frankcross

The trust Romney's changes position is interesting. I can see that his institutional position would influence him to keep to the conservative positions. However, I can also see how working with a Dem Congress could cause him to take much more liberal positions. Mostly, I think it is a sign of how very weak the conservative choices are, that the best candidate for conservatives is the guy who tried to get to the left of Ted Kennedy in a Senate election and who has pretty much zero record of conservatism while in actual elected office.

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