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July 27, 2007

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As I pointed out in response to the previous post on this topic, the merits or demerits of the Harvard study are somewhat beside the point. The opponents of bankruptcy reform, howevermuch their public arguments may have been relying on "junk science", were obviously then, and even more obviously now, on the right side of the issue. And Zywicki was obviously, then, and even more obviously now, laughably wrong.

If you're going to argue against the political misuse of junk science, it would be better to choose an example where its use derailed the passage of a sensible law, rather than failing to derail the passage of a foolish one.

Insofar as intellectuals may be said to have a duty, it is to reveal false or dishonest arguments, irrespective of which side of a political tussle is deploying them. Well done.

Gee, Dan, I think that's a frightening argument. If you just smile and ignore it whenever a bad argument is made in support of a cause you favor, you're going to find that the argument turns around and bites you sometimes. Take this study. It may help you argue against a particular bankruptcy reform, but it is also being used to support single-payer health care. Maybe you support that too, but you can be sure that this study can somehow be used to support a cause that you oppose. And when it is put to that purpose, you won't be in a position to object. It will be too late.

Gail, I certainly would never use the study in question in support of my position on bankruptcy "reform". (I actually consider the question of why people declare bankruptcy quite irrelevant to the issue of how strict bankruptcy rules should be.)

But the study in question was just one argument used against the bill, and others--such as that lenders at that moment needed *fewer* incentives to lend to poor credit risks, not more--were not only far more compelling, but eventually borne out by events. Your co-author argued specifically against this point, and he was wrong. (To quote his blog: "[T]he growth in subprime lending is not creating overwhelming debt burdens for low-income households.")

Now, when a past vocal proponent of one side of an argument that has been proven wrong, responds by harping on a specific flaw in one of his opponents' specific arguments, *without ever conceding the point that he was wrong overall*....well, one can't help suspecting he's engaging in a dishonest backdoor defense of his original (wrong) position, insinuating that the flaw in the opposition's argument proves his own argument correct, when in fact the opponents' other arguments have already carried the day.

Think, for example, of the longtime defenders of Alger Hiss or Julius Rosenberg, still griping about various obscure nits in the government's case against them. Is it "frightening" to dismiss such cranks as focusing on some unimportant detail--on which they might well be correct--in order to distract from their overall incorrectness?

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